Ep23. A conversation with Jordan

“if you want to do something big, you’ve got to be ok with failing” - “I can work hard, how hard can it be?” –“it was the most fun I’d never want to do again” -  “I wanted to row across an ocean because I thought it was a cool idea, and I couldn’t take it out of my head” - “I’m a very enthusiastic, passionate person, but in terms of getting a project done, I can get to be very practical. Like If we want to do this, what’s the very next thing that we need to do, and then build that into a bigger timeline” – “To what end?” – “Being a very passionate person can be a double edge sword, because I really want to do the things I want to do, and I’m willing to work really hard to make that happen, and do a lot of things that I would otherwise find unpleasant,…. But if I’m not inspired by the idea, I will not do it! And that is not a good thing…” – “There’s people that can do something to support their passion, or they have to make their passion pay” – “You can’t escape the human experience without something tragic happening to you, that’s part of the human experience. Some people are lucky that they have very little bits of that, and other people seem to be just plagued by it” – “A lot of people like the idea of something, versus the actual thing, so when you are thinking of a project that you wanna do, being self-critical is an important part of that. You have to like the thing, and make sure it’s not ego driven. If you’re going to do something big, do it because you also like it! Because you are passionate about the thing, and not just the idea of accomplishing it” – Jordan’s song is “Aaron Copeland”